God how I loved playing golf. The 12 felt good but the 8 slid through the turf and cushioned the ball off the face. By understanding simple averages and probabilities, a golfer can choose the best club and target for each shot. I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. I hit the same. Or should i take control on the distance i have? [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] My teachers are always trying to get me to change my swing to generate club head speed, but this consistently leaves me frustrated and physically sore. Following 3 Trackman lessons and 4 Trackman practice sessions (and my own research) i have moved my swing path nearly 5 degree in to out. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] PGA, Executive Director, Golf House Kentucky | Kentucky Golf Foundation. I play from the whites if it is more of a difficult or bigger course. That's what I think. Shafts: Nippon N.S. Jordan Spieth WITB 2021 (May Charles Schwab Challenge), Jordan Spieth WITB: 2020 Farmers Insurance Open, Jordan Spieth winning WITB: 2022 RBC Heritage, WITB Time Machine: Jordan Spieths 2015 John Deere Classic winning WITB. Most of my longer clubs only just creep above the 200 yd mark. The 56 to 62 grooves are wider and shallower for chipping and lob shots. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. The previous table looked at the approach distance the AMA will have based on hole length and average drive distance. The main part of the fitting was when I moved onto the chipping green and started to hit bunker shots - these clubs just got better and better, theyre so secure in strike and very reliable. That's my opinion at least. Im sure most of them can squeeze out 10 extra yards on every club on this chart. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] F rom the comfort of your sofa or if youre lucky, alongside the ropes each major championship gives you a chance to see the biggest hitters in the world unsheathe their drivers and swing away. Justin Thomas and Excel Sports Management are not responsible for lost, stolen or damaged items. You cannot paste images directly. In the following table the list shows how far a selection of PGA and LPGA Tour pros hit their 3-wood, 5-wood and hybrid clubs. I know I hit the ball a long way though. Mr Vokey has listened and gone on to design a wedge with the feedback of those players in mind. Nothing feels better than a Vokey, theyre silky smooth and with the right setup just slide under the ball. Im your AMA although Im trending down. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. Official driving distance is only measured on two holes per round, which means you might get 50-60 shots in a year. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Tuesday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. Either way I don't care. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. it would be great to see this information on a broadcast on a couple of hole locations - combined with protracer. Milled grooves - SM9 sees Titleist use a new saw to cut their grooves, instead of stamping them onto the face. 52* & 58* Callaway MD2 // S-300 Without such a grant, his family would not have been able to follow his passion. http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfequipment/golf-launch-monitor.php, Short hitter compared to the average WRXer. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. Srixon WG-706 56 w/ Nippon Modus Prototype C10 S I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. I suppose you have the biggest and fastest car as well ? What about this awesome drive from Dustin Johnson in Hawaii that everyone was talking about: So the drive went 433 yards. Only 0.4% of the average male amateur population is above a club speed of 115 mph. I dont want my Vokeys to look different to the past designs, I barely want them to perform differently either as you want reliability around the greens. Dont Waste Your Money, Should Your Wedges Match Your Irons? My question is my average D is +5.3, 6I is +3.5 and 8I is +2.1. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. This promotes a lower ball flight and is seen by tour players as being a more accurate shot than having the ball float into the air. Circa62, Tiger also ranks 125th on tour in total driving efficiency. The data results given in this article are completely skewed. I visited Hillside GC practice ground to have a full custom fitting session with the new SM9s. And for those golfers looking to make more substantial improvements to their game, the TrackMan Combine provides a roadmap for the improvement journey and accurate, immediate feedback at all checkpoints / stops along the way. PING i210 (4i-UW) DG X100 Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? Club Speed 113 mph Ball Speed 166 mph Attack Angle -1 deg Launch Angle 12 deg Spin Rate 2298 rpm Going back to Torrey Pines South, that is somewhere between the Green and White tees. A look at Brooks Koepkas yardage book below gives us a great insight into this and highlights how many types of shots pros can play with their irons. [/quote] On the LPGA Tour the top pros hit their driver an average of 257.7 yards. 5 Testers Needed! RocketBladez Tour 4-PW // C-Taper It makes the head look a little rounder, but Vokey has done a great job of disguising this weight distribution at address. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. Shaft: Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7 X, 5-wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2 Plus Your previous content has been restored. The way forward has to be more tighter averages with the driver maximising my best yardage from the swing speed I have. It sounds like Sophie has found her new fairway wood Titleist's brand new fairway model is seriously hot, New HydraZip face provides 43% more spin in wet conditions. Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. To me, working on improving distance happens only after theyve advanced beyond the AMA category. He is 180 ball speed off the driver with outstanding launch numbers. Those numbers seem about right. Not uncommon these days for elite swing speed The longest player hits it 320 yards on average and the longest recorded drive in 2022 is 460 yards. The longest player hits it 320 yards Thanks! By comparison a 5-wood carries 235 yards and hit a 3 hybrid, which measures from 19 to 21, an average carry distance of 230 yards. When it comes to how far the pros hit a 3 wood and the other longer clubs in the bag including their hybrids the distance analysis gets a bit more complicated because clearly the pros are starting to use these clubs for a wider variety type of shots than they do for their driver. [/quote] And it just isnt true.well at least not on average. Smash Factor 1.475 [/quote] While these yardages will give you a general guide as to how far pros hit their wedges it is important to remember how particular all the pros are about these clubs especially. Distance to Apex 195.9 That means the distance from the center of the green tothe edge averages just under 44 feet. Hamish777, March 26, 2013 in WRX Club Techs. I work in the industry and frequently play with low handicaps who tease me into playing longer yardage (they assume at 63 250 I bomb it) my home course is 7400 from the tips, and this frustratingly puts my score in the mid 90s. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. [/quote] If golfers are to continue playing the same length tees, then optimizing their driver distance is going to be key to enhancing their performance. When you account for factors such as wind, elevation, ground conditions and also the context in which the shot is being played Koepka, like all the pros, has a number of options for each iron shot which makes the question of how far he hits each iron a bit more complex than at first you may think. Carry Distance 302.9 I am disabled now and dont play at all but i had a spinal fusion and two rods put in my back when i was a teenager. Once AMA understands the likely outcomes for various shots, then he can most effectively implement course strategy for the benefit of improving his golf performance. How many times do you see TV reporting driving distance on an uphill into the wind hole? That is why you will find some pros wedges measured up to 0.5 or even 0.25 when listed and it is also likely that some of the actual strengths of the wedge lofts they use may in reality be stronger (i.e. Carry Efficiency 2.51 Im 65 years old. Thats 95 extra yards, putting the actual distance of the drive under neutral conditions around 340-345. The average USGA handicap for male golfers has been between 14.0 and 15.0 since 2005. Our TrackMan Combine database would contain the answer to those questions, but it would require significant work to pull that information out. Once again Vokey customise their wedges even in the grooves. I originally tried the 12 bounce in the 52 degree but I could feel the club stuttering in the turf at impact. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer The strategy implemented to create 10 additional yards of carry could be from lack of knowledge regarding how far each club goes. bT^GCUbIRT97U]"p:JJL)K^B"qPLCw4jw[ ))~u#-n MQ\~x/1c_kQ&mK The 58 is versatile in shot options and with the change of grind from D to M I had an increase in performance. 712u 3 Justins family and friends also know him as a kindhearted young man who goes out of his way to give back. Its Not About the Equipment. I also shot 86. Instead, its mostly situational. Top 50 Pros Analysis. Both wedges I could spin and release depending on the swing I put on the shot, I was especially a fan of the lob wedge chip shot which stopped on the second bounce. They think that a drives are always over 320, which they are not not even close. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] why you did not work that out or your friends did not suggest it I dont know. The strike felt tight knit and the spin was better than my SM8 52 degree wedge. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer Jon has proven that he is able to compete at the I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. Im a 42 year old 59 and been playing golf since I was 35. While golf has given Justin a career he thoroughly enjoys, he knows the life lessons golf can provide. Driver: Charles Kelley whats in the bag accurate as of the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. I think you wish you hit it further. I've had the privilege of playing with and watching tour players in person, so I know what they're capable of. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5 (46), Project X 120 6.0 (52-60), Putter: Scotty Cameron 009 Is it around 25-35% less than the AMA group? My full swing with a driver was anout ewual to an average guys 9 iron turn. The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. TI Taylormade SIM (9.0) Tensei CK Pro Orange 70TX Justin credits his success on the PGA TOUR to a childhood full of direction, support, and love. Distance to Apex 195.9 Dear friend, do anyone here user Taylormade RSI 1 Irons. The consistency of impact through the sand was staggering, I seemed to take the exact same amount of sand and impact location every time. [/color] My 8 iron 190yards 5iron 252 yards Pw is 150yrds And loft 56 at 120yrds Loft 110 yrds How do i control the power to less distance? [/quote] Length is nothing. I feel like Seve in the sand these days which is never a bad thing. I don't play professional golf. For example for a 170 yard shot into the green a quick glance at his iron yardages shows he could decide to play either a three-quarter 8-iron or try to hit a 9-iron as far as he can his max distance for that club. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364404259' post='6707501'] Going the Distance? Launch angle was between 17-22. Im a 9 handicap wanting to get into the low single digits. I would say probably is bs. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364416031' post='6708919'] #:>PC"ljTTZ!@8[+D py"4]F: }X@`*0gIiF1|fv3cp{c?9EkD!j> [quote name='Hamish777' timestamp='1364356541' post='6704153'] My time spent on the driving range tells me there are a lot of guys hitting 100 yards, 125, 150, 175a few hitting 190.and an even smaller number hitting over 200. In my opinion if your long game level is around hcap 0 you should score 76-80 . No question - 100%. Justins interest in the military was inspired by some of the men and women in uniform he has met over the years. The wedge glided through the turf and nipped the ball at impact, resulting in reliable soft strikes. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. Obviously not. I ultimately decided on the Tour AD DI 6X as a better choice. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. [/quote] [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364408786' post='6708081'] Spin Rate 2,645.8 Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high Before it is assumed that the AMA should simply club up, actual distances with each club should be determined. Thomas is also only 1 of 6 players in PGA Tour history with 15 victories and 2 Majors before his 30th birthday, joining Jack Nicklaus, Johnny Miller, Tom Watson, Rory McIlroy and Tiger Woods. How about heading out to Wedgefield in Georgetown, SC? I do agree the AMA should be playing much shorter courses than most presently do. Unlock the POWER Muscles in Your Golf Swing! The data has been collected through the TrackMan Combine from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world. I blame it on TV coverage. What is evident is you obviously don't play with good amateur players. Can anyone give me any insight of what all these numbers mean? 2 were over 320. People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs. With all the new technology that is now available in Drivers since this article came out, do you plan on updating the information. Justin Thomas is one of the most exciting and popular golfers on the PGA TOUR. People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. More photos from the event here. Id estimate the average tour player will hit their basic solid drive between 295-310 under neutral conditions. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] #TeamTrackMan Lol, so true.. Mizuno Pro 225 5-GW PX IO Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. The first chart, with the club speed distribution, is that only for hcp 14-15 golfers? To find a TrackMan Certified coach, please see our locator: trackmangolf.com/locator. The facts are in front of us at instructors, now we must help convey your points to the masses. I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. I'm not going to wear my body down trying to swing that club. hard to say for sure who was at fault in the beginning i am 7 handicap play with a friend who is 26-28 i play blue he plays white even when an extra player joins me on the blue he still plays white. Whatever helps you sleep at night my friend. Is it around 25-35% less then the AMA group? I have completely lost my iron swing due to injury and need a swing coach as well as does your program cover this as well? And that was 12 years ago. I once read that if all golfers had to count every stroke they took, and appropriate penalty shots, only 10 percent could legitimately break a 100. Of course touring pros are way better than everyone at all facets of the gamethat's why they're out making millions while a bunch of us have idiotic debates over the Internet. The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. [/quote] I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. Golf critics talk about technology making golf courses obsolete because of distance, but what they fail to clarify is that this only pertains to 0.1% of the golfing population. Here are Tiger's averages for this season on shots that were measured: show the real time hit - then after the shot replay it with the numbers/tracer. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. Maybe 126 or 127. The flight is reduced and the spin still remains. I didnt start playing until i was 31 and it was over by 42 yet my handicap was 12. Yet I hit my driver 230 yards to what they say is average, 214. Optimizing a golfers distance with the driver (using their existing club speed) is an alternative way to effectively shortening a golf course. FULL GUIDE By Age, Handicap etc. [Note If you are interested in what drivers and fairway woods the top 100 PGA Tour players are using check out the in-depth analysis we have done here.]. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. I can't seem to find them. I have shot level round the chammpionship course on occasion also though. Standard 60 lob wedges meanwhile carry 95 to 105 yards on average. I must say to the trap draw crowd, Justin Thomas isn't hitting trap draws while winning tournaments on the PGA Tour. He doesn't have the luxury of On average, all of the projected distances were 50-70 yards further without the slice. Required fields are marked *. They hit a 3-wood an average carry distance of 249 yds, a 5-wood 235 yds and 3-hybrids 230 yds. I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. On average PGA Tour pros hit a 3-wood a carry distance of 249 yards. I wonder what his user name is on WRX.. I hit the same. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. Flexibility, speed, and knowing how to transfer energy the most effi FYI I hit my drive 240-250 he often hits is way past me from the whites. 915 FD Get off the elite courses and look at the ones where people are paying maybe $45 to play, not $200+. Please have a look at this video about Smash Factor. Its important for me to have a 58 degree that works first and foremost in a bunker and then to chip with, because I use my 52 to chip with more often than not as I like to see the ball on the ground and rolling towards the hole so it has a chance of dropping in. 200 to 225 yards. Justin is committed to showing benevolence and grace to children in need, with the goal of bolstering their confidence, strengthening their determination, and allowing them great possibilities. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. Mr Vokey has listened and gone on to design a wedge with the feedback of those players in mind. I don't measure my driver distance either. This is something Im finding out at a 14 handicap. You've given me a good laugh for two days now. xV#+D7xEouj|_\ctk--[ne5a|N}x^. endobj Scotty Cameron SS Newport Beach w/ UST Frequency Filter and Rosemark Thorn 1.52 grip. Sure, I see guys hitting 250-300 yards, but they are far from the norm. Finally the bunker shot, this is where I feel Vokey really stand out and help my game. What Determines Driver Distance? He is committed to having a positive effect on their lives. [/quote] Sorry for the ramble. Titleist 913D3 9.5* Diamana D+ 72s I guess that's laughable though, right? [/quote] Top 100 PGA Tour Player Analysis, What Clubs Do LPGA players use? I play off 8 at a championship course 7200 yards in the UK. Youd be correct and that is why its always best to get fitted and discuss purchases with your pro. It should make you a little. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. Sometimes I will hit a 270 once or twice a round maybe and then two or three more at 240, but I will mix in a few bad ones at 190 with a hook or a slice and the rest will be at least 215 to 220. There is nothing worse than getting the club stuck in the ground at impact. If I have a front pin with a hard green, I would go at it harder with the shorter club, maybe a 150 yard pitching wedge. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ratio - 1.48[/background][/size][/color] Greater distancethe eternal quest for golfers. Is a soft ball for club head speed of 90 MPH with the driver better than a hard ball? A single figure golfer all of his adult life he lives in London and still enjoys playing whenever he can with friends and family. He defeated Will Zalatoris in a 3-hole playoff to clinch the title for the second time. A good drive might only yield 250 and that isnt exciting. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5, Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM9 (46-10F @46.5, 52-08F @51.5, 56-10S @55.5), Titleist Vokey Design WedgeWorks Proto (60.5 T) I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Average Distance - 302 yards[/background][/size][/color] As you can see, 45% have a club speed between 91 and 100 mph. also his AoD on the stinger. Shaft: Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec Blue 7 X, 3-wood: Callaway Rogue ST Max (15 degrees) Its unrealistic for most amateurs to break 100 on courses that share the aforementioned conditions, which is what a lot of the courses of today present. The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. That's what I think. This is so I could hit it higher and spin it more, enabling me to access that tough pin position. Driver: Titleist TSi3 (10 degrees) A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. He is giving up 30 yards of total distance off the tee, which makes his approach shots more difficult. The false fronts, forced carries, and deep protecting bunkers are too difficult for the AMA to deal with. Ping Glide 2.0 (54) DG S400 TI I remember they had the analysis of his 8 iron that he hit at firestone from like 200+ out in a golf digest or something a couple years ago don't remember any of the numbers unfortunately tho, M2, maybe The "you have to be a tour player to hit a long way" mentality is comical to say the least. I know I hit the ball a long way though. Based on the Trackman, the fitter's recommendation was a 910 D3, 7.5 loft, and a Graphite Design Tour AD DI 8X. Add That Little Extra Limited also participates in other affiliate programs with FlexOffers, CJ, Svorn and other sites and is compensated for referring traffic and business to these companies (again at no cost to you). The ball shoots from the face and you lose the control of the ball. Im 46 years old and dont think my 95 mph swing speed will increase that dramatically without throwing rhythm off. With a collection of prestigious wins, including the 2017 FedExCup, 2017 PGA Championship, 2021 PLAYERS and 2022 PGA Championship, Justin Thomas is known to many as a celebrated professional on the PGA TOUR. How to gain more distance without swinging faster? The next table uses the approach distances from the previous and calculates the proximity to hole. They hit 4-irons 208 yards and 5-irons 199 yards on average. Now that you guys have more and more data from the combine tests are you going to adjust the hcap chart. It was soft in landing rather than quick and checking. =t 'BRvGGs.Du="dP0 J/% Np^=+,5I,F5HH#418y\PuQ5) x9.>5?2P5@B$bz.k^OY<>Vf.%,(H8,~f3YzWBpj|!8K^E`$D &XP9gBTl+= Tg{\(k@bW6o9e:&x$hx"o0@:+}UnMD($R*3|>M}18&oA>m Ed&Z):Y{J|'@*bT6|QNbge2RU'02_^^{ This way the material is removed from the face and not spread out which means the grooves are sharper and weight isn't dispersed. Shafts: KBS Tour 125 S+, Wedges: TaylorMade Milled Grind 3 (50-09SB, 54-11SB, 60-08LB) 398 were here. Too many people walking around either who hit one drive at 300 a round and the rest slice 100 yards that only go 200 straight trying to tell people how great they are at golf when in reality they take like 6 mulligans a round or guys that are actually really good think that they are the norm when in reality they are a small minority and golf would not even exist if it were not for guys like me . Foley was talking about him hitting 8-9* down when playing his stinger. As club speed increases, those golfers tend to have lower handicaps. 1700 Broadway, Floor 29, New York, NY 10019, 2020 Justin Thomas. Stay up to date and receive free notifications of new posts by email. You just have to be fit correctly and learn how to deliver the club better to the ball, and i shoot low 70s and i hit the ball 245 yards with ZERO roll in Thailand so it can be done. ;9#I 'S2G4Mi]JE Brooks Koepka, winner of the US Open 2017 and 2018. %PDF-1.5 My total yardage for my 7 iron is 190, my ball speed is 119 mph. Their drives seem to always go miles and I dont know about you but Im always checking myself to think whether I indeed heard the commentator correctly that they are actually hitting that high an iron for that 200+ yard approach shot. Especially when they was no other golfers in sight. beginer level female golfer how to to benefit ths..is this correct this tracker.. Love all of this data and seeing exactly what the correlation is between the data and player performance! I've had the privilege of playing with and watching tour players in person, so I know what they're capable of. Heat treatment This treatment is now applied to the impact areas of the face to increase durability. 19* SLDR Resuce // Speeder 9.3s And this is about DJs average big drive when he swings harder, at around 125 mph. My longest drive was 270. T 'enG~q/Om\#Q`{ HLRpC45`|NiG*"2agUTeu9d10S8xl?O`,`~ja~=j'(d~e?7UN+&iHPI=8NQQ={"K9R1d"3j$NJd[?@fUM)IxJ)Sn-bcVk7*"d9;&!0tB%=7$W&q&:L^q1|T]6k)SF I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. The following graph shows a plot of the AMAs shots from 160 yards. The one at 3811 spin carried 8.3 yards further. Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 6 X, 3-wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2 Plus (15 degrees @ 14) What was the actual value of swing speed group 105 mph+, since it shows 0%. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. Of course, playing shorter courses seems very obvious if you want to improve performance. Top 50 Player Breakdown, What Irons Do LPGA Players Use? Thats 95 extra yards, putting the actual distance of the drive under neutral conditions around 340 it would be great to see this information on a broadcast on a couple of hole locations - combined with protracer. Not As Much As You Think! By Handicap, Age & Swingspeed, Should Your Driver Match Your Woods? Web2/27/2012 Justin Rose COMBINE TEST 1 | TrackMan www.trackman.dk TEST INFO Date:2/27/2012 Name:Justin Rose DOB:7/30/1980 Hcp:+5 Mode:Outdoor Location:Lake Nona Temp:78 F Wind:0-5mph Notes: TOTAL SCORE Driver Statistics (avg.) People that take hole distance & distance on approach to calculate driving distance is what's funny. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] Many golfers save some money and buy the SM8s and others will upgrade from SM7s to SM9s. Does that make sense? Why gather data from an elite course where people line up to play when that is far from representative of what most people are doing? Not at all. My average driving distance is 240 but IF I can make a shot in the sweet spot (Stars Aligned after a long Prayer) I can go 290 to 300 measured on the golf course.
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